Warning signs of unhappy sentiments against foreigners

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GLOW on Tue, 2nd Jun 2009 6:46 pm 

I am glad this got posted..

Even the kids can understand the difference between importing talent as opposed to unbriddled competition…

If we are to preserve Singapore for Singaporeans .. the extraordinary influx of foreigners has to be curbed.. stringent and comprehensive criteria should be implemented and policed..

ALL the free riders should have their PRs, Students Visa , Work permits, re-examined…

We really dont need 6million in Singapore…………

I don't want 6million in Singapore……….

bystander on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 2:09 am 

So, does this meant that Singaporeans would much prefer a closed door policy and restrain all the foreigners, who somehow might help to sustain the economy?
The fear of losing out just shows how closed minded can some people be.
Don't the competition spur improvement?
If Singapore is to remain competitive in the global arena, why restrict the competition to within the locals only? You do not just deal with Singaporeans when it comes to work or competition. How do you even improve your game when you do not even have sparring opportunities with the stronger player?
Having said that, I think it is a bit unfair to have a cap and quota on the number of foreigners allowed in work, competition etc as it would just limit the progress.
Be fair and let it be the battle of the best.

Kelvin_Teo on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 3:05 am 

Dear Bystander:

At ground level, there is a perception that those foreigners that were brought in could do what Singaporeans do, except that they have lower wage demands, and hence are cheaper to hire, i,e, they are equally talented as compared with Singaporeans.

Kelvin_Teo on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 3:05 am 

And in the case of badminton finals, I wonder how could the Singaporeans who were denied a place in the team gain sporting experience? Gaining experience in competitions are every bit as important in the development of the sportsmen, but unfortunately, the local athletes who were kept out of the team were denied such an experience. A cap on the number of foreign players would have dual advantages: 1) It is a selection pressure that forces the recruiting team to look for the very best foreigners 2) The very best foreigners would provide keen internal competition that improves the standards of the local sportsmen within the team.

Sepp Blatter, President of FIFA is exactly promoting such a cap in world football with the 6 + 5 rule, with 6 players eligible for the national team of the country of the club and 5 foreigners.
http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federation/presiden...

SIncerely yours

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GLOW on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 3:47 am 

mr bystander….

CURB does not mean a closed door policy.. where none get in…

It is NOT fear of losing out… it is the FEAR of an uneven playing field that drives Singaporeans MAD… why give PUBLIC scholarships to foreigners.. that should be done by Private businesses.. .. Public monies should serve the locals..

COMPETITION does not mean a race to the lowest wages(Singaporeans will never win that race)…. it actually means getting paid a COMPETITIVE amount for the work you can produce where others will find it difficult…

GLOW on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 3:48 am 

To improve OUR game… isn't that what education is supposed to achieve..??.. When GCT proposed the idea of getting foreign MNCs to invest in Singapore, his proposal did include a transfer of best management practices by the best companies via extraordinarily talented CEOs, managers… in the hope that the locals will learn from them and hence get a secondary "education" and move up the value chain.. this has happened to his credit… BUT because of the pursuit of ever increasing profits at ALL costs the wages of locals have not improved in tandem to the rising profits of companies… coupled with the need to average down the total wage bill for companies, the rise of foreigners at every level of the economy means that the locals suffer a employment disability because they don't have the luxury to "escape" to a different country where the costs are sooooooooooo much lower to retire or keep a family… Sparring partners are normally chosen to be within the same or similar weight group…. its not the same as taking it to Manny Pacquiao…..

GLOW on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 3:49 am 

Limit the progress… progress at whose costs.. ??.. where industries and businesses are given an otherwise unfair advantage someone must pay the costs.. the locals pick up the tab right away… in the form of lower wages, businesses pay a lower tax and this gets made up for by indirect taxation mostly paid for by locals.. the Singaporean worker especially…

GLOW on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 3:49 am 

Be fair… your last refrain…. Lets be FAIR to the Singaporeans in Singapore…. He provides the basis for all things possible in SIngapore.. From cradle to the grave he serves…
Be it the nation building exercises he goes through when in school,
as a reason for his parents (both) to toil at employment..
his own effort at education so that he can contribute in the near future,
National Service where some actually DIE to give protection to ALL in Singapore.. including foreign investments and "savings" of unsavoury characters like burmese junta, robert mugabe, noth korea's Kim..etc..
as a tax payer where the $$ he earns including the CPF gets used by the state for the betterment of the great majority.. at least that is what I am told.. nuff said..

actually I can go on and on.. BUT for brevity..

Competition in itself is not necessarily a good thing…. it has to be FAIR competition that actually adds to the country….

edsperience on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 5:04 am 

Are the local chinese of the impression that they themselves are natives of singapore.

'Foreigners', in this context, simply refers to those whom have yet to stay in singapore as long as the 'locals'. This 'us vs. them', in this context, is juvenile. What singapore needs is an influx of new ideas and cultures.

The monocultural policies pursued in this country has, since the late 80s, just led to an increasingly intellectually and perspectivally docile population – as is the case in China. Those who have memories of the 70s will know what i mean.

126 on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 7:23 am 

Don't forget your Singaporean parents' hard earn money is paying for your Schools fees, as well as for those foreign talents' kid. Heard they are heavily subsidised if they opts to stay on Singapore for another few years.

nsnsns on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 7:38 am 

Wake up, the Singapore male will eventually lose in the game of life when you finish your A-levels and are forced to enter NS slavery. The "JJC China loser" will move on to your varsity place and fuck your girls.
I hope something ugly breaks up at a larger scale. It will be a much better show than this childish badminton.

GLOW on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 8:30 am 

Mr Ed..

YES the local chinese consider themselves locals………….

The distinction you choose to make when you use the word "Native" can be divisive along racial lines…

The local Chinese, Malay, Indian and Others …. ALL consider themselves locals… SINGAPOREAN

The reason being is that they know of no other place to call HOME or COUNTRY.. None of the individuals in the various ethnic groups want to "return" to another place ….

GLOW on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 8:31 am 

It is always "us Vs them" as is also the case of a "dog eat dog " world..

If the country doesn't put its people 1st .. then what is the point of being a CITIZEN..??..

Caring Parent will always jump to side with their own Kids… Not use the Kids as shields..

GLOW on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 8:31 am 

New Ideas & Culture…. "Need"… we don't need it.. we have our own Ideas and culture.. Many years ago and even today.. it was widely accepted that the white man had a monopoly of good ideas.. and only when an idea comes out of the mouths of such "talented" foreigners was it considered to be good… it was and still is a "pinkerton" syndrome.. I hope in your own experiences you have found that locals also have GREAT ideas… Culture.. why would we want to dilute our very own distinct Singaporean culture.. would you go to a Malay food stall and ask for Indian rojak..??.. Lets be distinct.. Lets be identifiable.. …not this obscure shade of grey……

We can learn to appreciate the culture of other peoples who have communities here… but the truth is that we cannot be a better brazil, australia, china, america than the originals… However, we can be the BEST Singapore….

relak lah on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 1:33 pm 

yeah youre right about them taking our places in uni thats why i ended up in australia
but then again the china guys dont dapat our girls
now we get to dapat singaporean and australian girls

but seriously these china guys are losers… we need to get them out

Xperienced on Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 4:13 pm 

These open-arm welcomed Foreign Parasites (FPs) are already making in-roads into the political arena, especially into the grass-roots organisations, RCs and CCs.

Some of them, especially Malaysians, have already been made Ministers and Members of Parliament.

In time to come, with their large numbers, the China FPs will challenge the power seat of the PAP govt.

Then we, the present local "losers", who are now taking the bitter medicine, will have the duty and responsibility to tell our children to support them and vote them into power, so that the PAP will live to regret what they are doing now.

This is called RETRIBUTION!.

The same has already happened to the "Two Is Enough" Policy.

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Danse on Mon, 8th Jun 2009 5:26 am 

Think about it.. a certain portion of the older generation of Singporeans vote for PAP because they are 'thankful' to LKY for whatever 'material progress' he helped facilitate.

So now that most Singaporeans are getting increasingly fed up with the PAP, they bring in foreigners from other 'less developed' parts of Asia to fill the gap of 'thankful' voters to them.

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