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Written on October 18, 2009 by Kelvin Teo

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Cutting the corners for our defense spending

Cutting the corners for our defense spending There are numerous ways to cut Singapore's defense budget.
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18 Comments on "Cutting the corners for our defense spending"

  1. Rebecca Wu on Sun, 18th Oct 2009 4:34 am 

    just wondering, why can't all the countries ard the world come together and form a UN-like organization called "LDDFT" >>Let's Downgrade our Defense Facilities Togehter"

    i mean, personally i think it is really rediculous for countries to stack up their defense forces given the current situation that, with whatever we r alr having now, any kind of war invovling our current technology, would result in complete destruction of a country..hence, if World War III ever going to happen, that would be the end of humankind!!!

    of course, i still support National Service. I think it is the best education the singapore government could possibly give to our countrymen. besides the physical benefits of looking fitter, hotter and sexier, NS has certainly helped a guy to become more mature, more independent, show greater appreciation for the things they used to take for granted,, e.g. their mom. Most importantly, if one is fortunate enough, it transforms someone from a boy to a man, a girl to a strong lady =)

  2. princessruby on Sun, 18th Oct 2009 4:41 am 

    rebecca, i agree!!! =) any contemporary war would certainly be a "lose-lose" situation..='(

  3. quotes.addict on Sun, 18th Oct 2009 6:02 am 

    "Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary."

    -Mahatma Gandhi, 'Satyagraha Leaflet No. 13,' May 3, 1919

  4. Jackson Tan on Sun, 18th Oct 2009 8:51 am 

    I have no idea how the current unit posting system functions, but I think it has something to do with matching each abilities and talents to their vocation. This makes sense, and I did remember doing a very long quiz about half a year before I was enlisted. A location based one may lose the advantage of this system.

    As for stay-out, even if distance can be reduced, there is still personal transportation costs and meal costs (because you're just shifting the numbers: now the servicemen have to pay it out of their own pockets), which makes it unfavourable to some people. I do know of people who would dislike staying-out for this particular reason (and it's so much a hassle to commute to camp everyday, as compared to staying-in). Furthermore, the reason why meals are so expensive is because they are, supposedly, measured to give the servicemen their proper balanced meal (though I must say I see my platoon mates inflating as the months pass by…), and staying-out may compromise this factor.

    In any case, I don't really support the cutting of logistics. You have already introduced the article using rising purchases of "show-off" equipment. Why not cut on that? Are they that vital? Or is it some sort of chummy deal with the US so they can sell their products and we can gain their protection?

  5. Kelvin Teo on Sun, 18th Oct 2009 9:39 am 

    Dear Jackson:

    My introduction of rising purchases is to show some sort of arms race going on. As it is, I don' wish to spend my time speculating on the what and whys are we making such purchases. I am not that high up to know about such things, and if I do write about it, I wouldn't be living and breathing now..hahahaha!

    Accessibility to the unit is actually an important factor in determining our units' readiness. What I notice in my unit (which practises activation drill once) is that those who lived in non-accessible places are usually among the last few to report in a activation/recall drill. BTW, my unit does Chemical, Biological, Radiological Defese stuff, so response time is of essence. If I could vaguely remember, when we were activated by our brigade commander, most of us who lived in the more accessible places made it before those who lived in the obscure areas. One was quite late, reporting +2.5 hours after activation. My place was considered quite obscure, and I made it just in under 2 hours taking public transport. Yeah, that was during my NSF days.

  6. Kelvin Teo on Sun, 18th Oct 2009 9:39 am 

    Yes, there are some people who dislike stay-out, I too noticed that, and those are the few who usually live in non-accessible places. Howeve, it is safe to say that there are more servicemen who are in favor of stay-out as compared to stay-in. In my unit, the procedure to apply for stay-out is to get one's director superior to submit a signed memo of approval. In my company alone, I didn't find the astronomical number of personnel applying for stay-out that surprising. I would say majority would support stay-out.

    Some servicemen hold an additional job like giving tuition, etc to earn spare cash. Thus, there could be an additional economic benefit in allowing stay-out, ie. economic productivity. And for those who stay-out, I do notice a positive change in their morale and disposition.

    Sincerely yours

  7. missrandom on Sun, 18th Oct 2009 11:02 am 

    "Thus, there could be an additional economic benefit in allowing stay-out, ie. economic productivity"
    >>> very insightful!!!!!^O^

  8. The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Daily SG: 19 Oct 2009 on Mon, 19th Oct 2009 11:54 am 

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  9. Roy on Mon, 19th Oct 2009 4:11 am 

    Dear Rebecca Wu

    Why dun you sign up for NS? You are aware that females can volunteer for the NS too? Its easy to say one support NS because it brings intangible benefits to those who went through them. How about walking the talk?

    The last I check, the company's out there cares very little about how "more matured" Singaporean males are or how "fit" they are. Ceteris Paribus, they prefer to employ the younger foreign males.

    Please stop regurgitating the "benefits" that our government propagandized and use your own digression when forming opinions. If you refuse to think with your own head and insist on being such a good sheep, please have the decency and the integrity to align your actions with your opinions and sign up for the great FOC education that is NS.

  10. administrator on Mon, 19th Oct 2009 5:15 am 

    we encourage free expression of personal opinions without any intentional attack on your fellow commenters.

    thanks & best regards.

  11. lastICTtogo on Mon, 19th Oct 2009 11:49 am 

    NS is welfare from the Singaporean male to the government and citizens of Singapore. So much so that the Govt have a 'clutch mentality' with it. How is that even considered education?

  12. contrarian on Mon, 19th Oct 2009 2:58 pm 

    "One of the chief complaints that can often be heard from undergraduates with national service (NS) obligations is that they tend to forget whatever they previously learn during their intervening NS years because they didn’t have time to refresh their memories for one reason or another and this puts them at a disadvantage when compared to their female peers and foreign counterparts."

    It's amazing, the excuses people give to make up for their own deficiencies.
    Others including myself have gone through NS to university. I never for once felt disadvantaged by taking two and a half years off (yes it was 2.5 years back then) before university. Because I was older and knew what I wanted, I was able to apply for a corporate scholarship during university on my university results, while those fresh from JC were not picked.

  13. Kelvin_Teo on Mon, 19th Oct 2009 4:22 pm 

    contrarian, you have a point. There are people who made it without much of a difficulty. I managed dean's list in 3 of my semesters even though my time was 2 and a half years NS. However, I did notice that people who had to retake exams or study for tests didn't do that well, especially when they had to stay-in. At one point of time, I was assisting one chap, but the poor guy had to undergo so much distractions, from colleagues etc. He did worse when he retook A levels.

    I guess that guy didn't have good concentration power, or he's just not made to study. He suffered a major accident which hindered his intellectual development to a certain extent though, but his chief problem is that he was easily distracted.

    But I had met a lot of weird people too. I know one guy who gets distracted soo easily that he studies in among all places…the toilet at home!

    Sincerely yours

  14. CelluloidReality on Tue, 20th Oct 2009 5:44 am 

    Defence procurement is more than just purchasing equipment. It is also about strengthening defence diplomacy and over the long course of events, it adds up as a contribution towards interoperatibility of forces and doctrinal commonality.

    The world is not going to be a less dangerous place, and most of the challenges we face are multilateral and outside of our immediate neighbourhood

  15. The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup: Week 43 on Sat, 24th Oct 2009 11:08 am 

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  16. raxip on Fri, 6th Nov 2009 4:28 am 

    Dear Kelvin,

    The reason for defense spending increase is not so much so as the costs spent on stay-in personnels' logistics but due to the fact that the systems that we procure now are more expensive. It is a natural consequence of the increased technological complexity of the newer systems we procure. For example, the A4SU Skyhawks which we retired were replaced by the F15SGs which costs more per unit (even after factoring inflation and upgrades).

    Also, to fight the modern-day war, we need good lines of communications for our 3G SAF to work (so we were told). Those equipments needed to maintain these communication lines don't come cheap either. Put it this way, we have simply lost the ability to fight war on the cheap with slightly inferior but much cheaper systems. That is a consequence of our need to gain that marginal advantage in the war vis-a-vis a 2G/2.5G army.

  17. Peter on Sat, 22nd May 2010 1:05 pm 

    The best way to cut defence spending is cutting the pay of SAF regulars! They are overpaid as compared to the NSmen working in the private sector!

  18. Krav Maga on Thu, 24th Jun 2010 6:35 am 

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